Drug Dealers, Mobsters, and Pimps, Oh My!
Associated Press article, October 10, 1997
Accused Aruban drug smugglers face extradition to U.S. (excerpt)
Two members of a powerful Aruban banking family face extradition to the United States on charges of drug trafficking and money laundering.
Extradition is a touchy political issue on this Dutch Caribbean island. And the case against the Mansur family is believed to have contributed to the collapse of the coalition government last month.
Cousins Alex and Erick Mansur were arrested Oct. 3 along with Arubans David Cybul and Randy Habibe after a judge agreed to hear a U.S. extradition request. The four are charged with numerous counts of drug trafficking and money laundering.
In a move to block the extraditions, the Mansur family this week foreclosed on several loans outstanding to Prime Minister Henny Eman. He may be forced into bankruptcy and out of the running in the Dec. 14 general elections.
U.S. narcotics officials long have alleged that the Mansurs have ties to South American drug lords. Aruba is on the U.S. State Department list of leading money-laundering centers and the island, which lies about 20 miles off the north coast of Venezuela, is a haven for South American drug traffickers, according to the drug-fighting agency.
((Note: Since 1998 Aruba is considered a 'Tier Two' nation by the U.S. State Department in regards to money laundering and drug trafficking, having met the minimum standards for combating such))
Associated Press article, June 5 1998 (excerpt)
Aruban businessman pleads innocent in laundering, smuggling case
An Aruban businessman accused of reaching the heights of drug-money laundering by cleansing $ 800 million in profits pleaded innocent to charges carrying a possible life prison term.
After staying beyond the legal reach of the United States for five years, Randolph Habibe made his first appearance in a U.S. court Thursday thanks to a change in Aruban extradition rules last October.
Habibe acted as the chief financial officer of La Costa drug cartel based on Colombia's north coast, working as both smuggler and launderer with the Medellin and Cali cartels in the 1980s and early 1990s, U.S. investigators charge.
Aruba, a Dutch island 20 miles off the Venezuelan coast, is on a State Department list of leading money-laundering centers.
Inter Press Service/Global Information Network, March 25 1999 (excerpt)
CRIME-CARIBBEAN: "DIRTY MONEY" SCOURGE CONTINUES TO PLAGUE REGION
By Wesley Gibbings
Five years after the establishment of a regional secretariat to initiate Caribbean-wide action against money laundering, the scourge of "dirty money" continues to plague the region.
A number of regional territories have been classified as being "high," "medium high" and "medium" category money-laundering centers in studies conducted by the U.S. State Department.
Aruba and the Netherlands Antilles, for example, were described in a 1997 report as being "high priority" territories with money laundering organizations involved in multi-million dollar building and land development projects.
"Such transnational criminality undermines the legitimacy and viability of our institutions and has the potential to shred the democratic fabric of our society that we guard so jealously," he (Trinidad and Tobago foreign Affairs Minister Ralph Maraj) says.
It is widely-believed that money laundering activities have intensified within recent years and that a number of thriving businesses are being used to front those activities.
In The Bahamas, where officials long denied there was evidence of money laundering, strong legislation is now in place.
((Perhaps Aruba should follow the Bahamas' example and face the truth about their safe, happy island))
Canada NewsWire Ltd. December 20, 2005 (excerpt)
Key figure in International Organized Crime Group Extradited to the United States
A three and a half year police operation, Project OMERTA, took another step towards its completion today when Nunzio Larosa was extradited to the United States.
Larosa was investigated along with members of the Caruana criminal organization who have been convicted and sentenced for drug offences in Canada.
This criminal organization had been operating for more than 30 years in Canada, Venezuela, Aruba, the United States, Mexico, England, Italy, Switzerland, France, Germany, Spain, Thailand, and India. This group was responsible for major shipments of narcotics to both North America and Europe.
It laundered its own drug profits as well as providing money laundering services to other criminal organizations.
The National Post, October 12, 2004 (excerpt)
I have right to stay: convicted mobster
By Adrian Humphreys
TORONTO - A man billed as one of the world's most powerful Mafia bosses, who chose Canada as his base for an international drug trafficking empire described by a judge as being of "near staggering proportions," will stand today in an Ontario court and invoke the Canadian Charter of Rights to claim that extradition to his native Italy would deprive him of life, liberty and security.
In 1993, when police in Venezuela raided several of the Caruanas' homes and seized computer records, the documents suggested they had bought 60% of the total real estate on the island of Aruba, leading some to believe they were trying to build their own Mafia state.
((I wonder who filled the vacuum- Mansurs? Posners? The Cali cartel?))
http://news.caribseek.com/set-up/exec/view.cgi?archive=67&num=14291
Dutch Caribbean
By INCSR 2005
Posted: May 15, 2005 15:01 UTC
I. Summary
Aruba, the Netherlands Antilles, and the Netherlands together form the Kingdom of the Netherlands. The two Caribbean parts of the Kingdom have autonomy over their internal affairs, with the right to exercise independent decision making in a number of counternarcotics areas. The Government of the Netherlands (GON) is responsible for the defense and foreign affairs of all three parts of the Kingdom and assists the Government of Aruba (GOA) and the Government of the Netherlands Antilles (GONA) in their efforts to combat narcotics trafficking. The Kingdom of the Netherlands is a party to the 1988 UN Drug Convention, and all three parts are subject to the Convention. Both Aruba and the Netherlands Antilles are active members of the Financial Action Task Force (FATF) and Caribbean Financial Action Task Force (CFATF).
II. Status of Country
Netherlands Antilles
The islands of the Netherlands Antilles (NA) (Curacao, Aruba, and Bonaire off Venezuela and Saba, Saint Eustatius, and Sint Maarten east of the U.S. Virgin Islands) continue to serve as northbound transshipment points for cocaine and increasing amounts of heroin coming from South America; chiefly Colombia, Venezuela, and to a much lesser extent, Suriname. These shipments typically are transported to U.S. territory in the Caribbean by "go-fast" boats although use of fishing boats, freighters, and cruise ships is becoming more common. Direct transport to Europe, and at times to the U.S., is by "mules" (drug couriers) using commercial flights. Evidence in 2004 did not support a finding that drugs now entering the United States from the Netherlands Antilles are in an amount sufficient to have a significant effect on the United States, but the entire eastern and southern Caribbean is an area of U.S. concern. The DEA and local law enforcement saw continued go-fast boat traffic this year, much of which moved to Sint Maarten en route to Puerto Rico or the U.S. Virgin Islands. Additionally, there was a marked increase in sailing vessels and larger vessels that were used to clandestinely move multi-hundred kilogram shipments of cocaine under the guise of recreational maritime traffic.
Officials at St. Maarten have taken this threat seriously by initiating joint U.S. cooperative investigations as well as adopting new law enforcement strategies to combat the problems.
The crime and homelessness stemming from drug abuse remained important concerns for the GONA. After Curacao experienced a stunning increase in drug-related homicides in 2002 with an additional moderate increase in 2003, reporting during 2004 saw a reduction of 45 percent to 13 total drug related homicides. This was attributed to successful regional enforcement operations, one of which was followed by a period of five weeks with no homicides.
Peru, the Dominican Republic, Cuba, and other European markets topped the noteworthy list. These changes were paralleled by the GONA’s re-prioritization of the "Zero Tolerance" teams whose primary mission is to identify illegal immigrants to the islands and deport them. This was accompanied by the Minister of Justice’s arrangement with the Netherlands to support new law enforcement missions via loans to cover police overtime, prison reforms, and to station additional Dutch police in the Antilles. He continues to push initiatives such as improving intelligence networks, developing direct Antillean to other foreign country liaison, and acquiring tools like container scanning devices and ground based radar for the region.
Elected officials and all elements of the law enforcement and judicial community recognize that the NA, chiefly due to geography, faces a serious threat from drug trafficking. The police, who are understaffed and need additional training, have received some additional resources, including support from the National Guard. On March 12, 2004, the local parliament declared a state of emergency as it related to internal crime.
Aruba
Aruba is a transshipment point for increasing quantities of heroin, and to a lesser extent cocaine, moving north, mainly from Colombia, to the U.S. and secondarily to Europe. Drugs move north via cruise ships and the multiple daily flights to the U.S. and Europe.
The island attracts drug traffickers with its good infrastructure, excellent flight connections, and relatively light sentences for drug-related crimes served in prisons with relatively good living conditions. This problem is further promulgated by the Netherlands Antilles’ law enforcement successes in Curacao during 2004, which necessitated a change in route on the part of the traffickers in the region.
While Aruba enjoys a low crime rate, reporting during 2004 indicates that prominent drug traffickers are establishing themselves sporadically on the island. Additionally, Arubans worry about the easy availability of inexpensive drugs. The most visible evidence of a drug abuse problem may be the homeless addicts, called "chollars" who number about 300 and whose photographs routinely appear in publications to increase public awareness to drug abuse and to stem an increase in crime.
((Hey Dompig- what does your brother-in-law 'Booty' do for a living?))
Drug abuse in Aruba remains a cause for concern. Personal use quantities of the various types of drugs are easily found within walking distance of Oranjestad’s cruise pier and are frequently peddled to cruise ship tourists. Over the last year, cruise lines that visit Aruba have instituted strict boarding/search policies for employees in order to thwart efforts of the traffickers to establish regular courier routes back to the United States. The expanding use of MDMA in clubs by young people attracts increasing attention. Private foundations on the island work on drug education and prevention and the Aruban government’s top counternarcotics official actively reaches out to U.S. sources for materials to use in his office’s prevention programs. The police also work in demand reduction programs for the schools and visit them regularly. The government has established an interagency commission to develop plans and programs to discourage youth from trafficking between the Netherlands and the U.S. The Government has been very clear that it intends to pursue a dynamic counternarcotics strategy in close cooperation with its regional and international partners.
In 2004, Aruban law enforcement officials continued to investigate and prosecute mid-level drug traffickers who supply drugs to the endless parade of "mules." During 2004, there were several instances where Aruban authorities cooperated with U.S. authorities to realize U.S. prosecutions of American citizens arrested in Aruba while attempting to return to the United States with drugs in multi-kilogram quantities. Aruba also devotes substantial time and effort to the identification of the person’s responsible for the importation of drugs to Aruba. During 2004, Aruba realized a successful investigation with Jamaican Police and U.S. authorities that targeted a substantial heroin trafficking organization.
The GOA hosts the Department of Homeland Security’s (DHS) Bureau of Customs and Border Protection pre-inspection and pre-clearance personnel at Reina Beatrix airport. These officers occupy facilities financed and built by the GOA. DHS seizures of cocaine, heroin, and ecstasy were frequent in 2004. Drug smugglers arrested are either prosecuted in Aruba or returned to the U.S. for prosecution, if appropriate. Aruban jails remain critically overcrowded. The GOA established special cells in which to detain those suspected of ingesting drugs. Aruban officials regularly explore ways to capitalize on the presence of the FOL and pre-clearance personnel, seeking to use resident U.S. law enforcement expertise to improve local law enforcement capabilities.
Seizures. Available drug seizure statistics for calendar year 2004 are as follows:
Aruba seized 226.122 kilograms of cocaine, 16.901 kilograms of heroin, 91.838 kilograms of marijuana, 115 grams of hashish, and 1070 tablets of MDMA ("Ecstasy"), and 636 marijuana plants. Arrests: 222
http://gvnet.com/humantrafficking/Netherlands-2.htm
THE NETHERLANDS (TIER 1) [Extracted from U.S. State Dept Trafficking in Persons Report, June 2005]
The Netherlands is primarily a destination and transit country for trafficking of women and girls for the purpose of sexual exploitation; trafficking for labor exploitation exists to a lesser extent. Most victims are trafficked from Central and Eastern Europe, with some victims from Nigeria and Brazil. Reportedly, a significant percentage of the 25,000 individuals engaged in prostitution reportedly are trafficking victims. Internal trafficking of young, mostly foreign girls by Moroccan and Turkish pimps into sexual exploitation also occurs. The Netherlands Antilles, where the Netherlands exercises responsibility over visa issuance according to guidelines issued by the Netherlands Antilles, became more of a concern as a transit and destination for illegal migrants, some of whom may have been trafficked.
The Government of the Netherlands fully complies with the minimum standards for the elimination of trafficking.
Protection In 2004, the Dutch government increased its funding for shelters assisting trafficking victims by 1.2 million Euros. Additionally, regional governments funded shelters, victim protection programs and local education programs. The Dutch Foundation Against Trafficking in Persons (STV), the national reporting center for registration and assistance for trafficking victims, registered 405 trafficking victims in 2004, an increase from 267 the previous year. Moreover, 185 trafficking victims received B-9 residency permits, an increase from 84 in 2003.
THE DUTCH CARIBBEAN AUTONOMOUS REGIONS Anecdotal reporting suggests that the Netherlands Antilles and Aruba, autonomous regions within the Kingdom of the Netherlands, are transit and destination regions for trafficking of women and children for sexual exploitation. Curacao and Saint Maarten, in particular, reportedly are destination islands for women trafficked for the sex trade from Columbia, the Dominican Republic and Haiti. In Curacao (and neighboring Aruba) observers estimate that 500 foreign women are in prostitution, some of whom may have been trafficked. There are also reports of children being trafficked for sexual exploitation as underage prostitutes, particularly from the Dominican Republic. In September 2004, Curacao prosecuted and sentenced two traffickers who trafficked children from Suriname to Curacao using fraudulent documents. Visas for Aruba and the Netherlands Antilles are issued by Dutch Embassies following review by Aruban or Netherlands Antilles' authorities. Visa controls were reportedly tightened in 2004. Also in 2004, the Dutch government provided 100,000 Euros to an IOM program focused on awareness raising, information dissemination and regional cooperation targeting officials from the Dutch Caribbean.
((American Amy Bradley disappeared from a cruise ship in Curacao in 1998- or if you believe the Curacao investigators, she 'fell overboard'. Amazing how many parallels Amy's disappearance and Natalee's have in common: pretty American girls who disappear without a trace while in the company of locals, they both disappeared from Dutch Caribbean territory, and in both cases the local authorities and government made only token attempts to solve their disappearances. And these are the places where we should spend our tourism money- places where the governments have a history of corruption, crime, and obviously do not care about the safety of their visitors?!))
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Track under scrutiny for alleged mob link
Jim Baron
03/04/2005
PROVIDENCE -- Lincoln Park may have to shut down its racing simulcast arrangement with 10 gambling entities across the country that are named in a federal indictment tying them to the Gambino organized crime family.
Lincoln Park spokesman Michael Trainor said the track "is going to follow the direction of the DBR."
In January, federal prosecutors in New York issued an 88-count indictment charging 17 defendants with operating an illegal gambling business that, over the last four years, brokered more than $200 million in bets on horse racing and other sporting events.
Besides the Lakes Region race track, the other entities named in the indictment include Racing and Gaming Services (St. Kitts); Euro Track (Isle of Man); Tonkawa Indian Reservation (Oklahoma); Coeur d’Alene Casino (Idaho); International Racing Corp. (Curacao); Elite Turf Club (Curacao); Excelsior Casino (Aruba); Capital Sports Limited (Australia), and Darwin All Sports (Australia).
((Excelsior Casino- isn't that the one convicted Chicago mobster Michael Posner owns? I do believe it is! The same Michael Posner convicted of involvement in the Ferriola-Infelice mafia family's activities in Illinois: He (Rocky Infelice) also operated the Front Runner Messenger Service, a horse-betting parlor in Highwood belonging to Michael Posner, a protege of of Ferriola and a kingpin in Lake County mob vice operations. Source: http://www.ipsn.org/lolli1.html).
Appearing in the Trade Register of the Chamber of Commerce and Industry in ARUBA since 22 JUNE 1998 under serial number 23398.0 is the company with the tradename: | |
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EXCELSIOR CASINO N.V. | |
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Business address | J.E. IRAUSQUIN BLVD. 230, NOORD |
Legal form | LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY |
Name of the company | EXCELSIOR CASINO N.V. |
Statutory seat | ARUBA |
Date of incorporation | 19 JUNE 1998 |
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Authorized capital | ARUBAN FLORINS 100,000.00 |
Issued capital | ARUBAN FLORINS 20,000.00 |
Paid up capital | ARUBAN FLORINS 20,000.00 |
Fiscal year | 01 JANUARY thru 31 DECEMBER |
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DIRECTORS - AUTHORIZED PERSONS AND CORPORATE BODIES - SUPERVISORY BOARD: | |
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POSNER, WALTER BRETT; | |
Residing in | 9 BANOCKBURN COURT , BANOCKBURN III, U.S.A. |
Born in | U.S.A., CHICAGO, ILLINOIS on 21 MAY 1960 |
Nationality | AMERICAN |
Position | MANAGING DIRECTOR |
Effective | 23 OCTOBER 1998 |
Authority | FULL |
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OBJECTIVE(S) OF THE COMPANY | |
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TO OPERATE A CASINO AT THE "HOLIDAY IN RESORT".
The Rothschilds of the Mafia on Aruba (excerpt) The MPs of the Staten van Aruba the Aruban Parliament must have been bewildered when one of their own ministers smeared the good name of their island. Former minister Elio Nicolaas grins when he is reminded of his speech in 1989. (1) Finally someone had thrown a rock in the silent and complacent waters of the Caribbean tax-haven Aruba – a semi-independent part of the Kingdom of the Netherlands. "I had to react," he says. "My own colleague, the Minister of Finance, denied money was laundered on the island." Nicolaas knew better. Prior to his political career he had been a police officer and had actually set up the anti-narcotics squad "Aruba's geographical position is a blessing and a curse at the same time," says Eman, alluding to the pleasant climate which attracts thousands of tourists each year, and the unpleasant closeness of the Colombian and Venezuelan northern shores which makes it vulnerable for drug-traffickers. According to Eman, Aruba is burdened with the problem of other nations: "The drug trade is not Aruba's primary responsibility. The market is in Europe and the United States. It is not our fault they cannot control their borders, that Aruba is used as a transit point." (That is just like Aruba- deny you have a problem and shift the blame elsewhere) The US Government is not as dismissive as Mr. Eman. Within three years Aruba rose from a 'medium risk' to a 'high risk' country in the State Department's annual International Narcotics Control Strategy Report. The island is used as a base for bulk transhipment of cocaine to the US and Europe, through its Free Trade Zone. Off-shore corporate banking facilities, the casino/resort complexes, high volume tourism, and a stable currency all make Aruba attractive to money laundering organizations. Eman considers these reports as too negative and suggests that Aruba is in good company since "the US and Holland rank number one on the list as well." (And the U.S. aggressively combats such activities, instead of letting politicians make friends with the criminal elements here) The US is concerned about credible reports that some members of the Aruban government met regularly with individuals associated with drug trafficking and money laundering syndicates. In spite of, or perhaps because of, the denials by Aruba officials, the US remains convinced that entrenched money laundering organizations direct large cash deposits into land development and other construction projects on the island. The Netherlands is equally worried. "I think we are going to loose it on Aruba," Arthur Docters van Leeuwen, the Dutch Attorney General, said about the counter-narcotics efforts on the island. Aruba is in the hands of some powerful families and Holland can't do anything about it, due to constitutional restraints. The reasons for Docters' pessimism were revealed when a confidential report on the Aruban Security Service the Veiligheidsdienst Aruba (VDA) leaked in the Dutch press. In October 1994 its director Martien Ras had sounded the alarm-bell. He had written to Docters, then chief of the Dutch security service, that democratically elected officials promoted the interests of private business-men to such an extent that Aruba's democratic institutions were in danger. December 1996 President Clinton put Aruba on the list of Major Illicit Drug-transit Countries. Aruba is now eligible for de-certification by the US Government. At the yearly certification scrutiny March 1997, however, Aruba was not decertified. The First Independent State under Mafia Control Aruba's reputation as a 'Mafia island' became public in March 1993 when it was described by the Italian daily Corriere della Sera as 'the first state to be bought by the bosses Cosa Nostra'. The Sicilian Mafia clan of the families Cuntrera and Caruana allegedly had taken over the island. Between 1988 and 1992 they acquired 60 per cent of Aruba through investments in hotels, casino's and the election-campaign of a Prime Minister. Aruba looked set to be the first independent state under Mafia control. Prime Minister Eman doesn't like to be reminded of the name Cuntrera – primarily because of his signature on the licence of Paolo and Giuseppe Cuntrera for their nightclub Visage in 1987. It keeps hurting him, even though he tries to dismiss it as "a very superseded story." According to Eman, at the time these people were honourable citizens in several countries, among others in Venezuela. In Aruba, their criminal activities were not known. Moreover, "when we learned who they really were, we expelled them." The issue also became highly politicized. The two main political parties the Arubaanse Volkspartij (AVP, Aruban Peoples Party) led by Eman and the Moviemento Electoral di Pueblo (MEP, People's Electoral Movement) led by Nelson Oduber accused each other of permitting the Cuntrera's to infest Aruba and both claim to have kicked them off the island. In reality, the Cuntrera's had left temporarily on their own in 1988. Responsible for the operation was the chief of the Organized Crime Division of the PolÃcia Tecnica Judicial (PTJ), Guillermo Jiminez. It was his finest hour, but a few months later he was forced in early retirement. Now he spends his time at a private office downtown Caracas. "We searched their houses and offices. We managed to seize lots of documents, that is what made the operation successful," says Jimnez. These documents included details of off-shore companies on Aruba, commercial transactions with companies based in Russia, Nigeria and Senegal, bank drafts and deposits. According to Jiminez, the documents offered considerable scope for continued investigation. "On Aruba for instance. But that didn't happen ... They have problems over there. Their intelligence service is penetrated by political groups..." One of the Venezuelan banks the clan worked with, the Banco de la Construccion, has an off-shore subsidiary on Aruba: the Intercon Financial Bank, through which a lot of money was channelled. A Smugglers' Paradise The Intercon Financial Bank on Aruba is represented by the law-firm Croes & Wever. One of the partners is former Minister of Justice Hendrik Croes. The firm's trust-company Arulex was implicated in setting up the bank. "Yes, we are involved with that bank," says Croes. "We still handle all their legal affairs, but we don't know anything of their financial accounts." The Croes Family has been accused of ties with Cuntrera-Caruana. The Sicilian mafiosi payed for a trip of another brother, Rudy Croes (who succeeded Hendrik as Minister of Justice in a previous MEP government) as party secretary to a meeting of the Socialist International in Turkey. This has not been denied. Paolo Cuntrera visited the island regularly despite his expulsion in 1988. The government opposed his legal actions for re-admittance. But Hendrik Croes has to admit the procedures were not stainless. A blundering government lawyer, an official who signed a residence permit 'by mistake', meant that de facto Paolo Cuntrera was able to circulate freely on the island. ((Let's see..when did Paulus van der Sloot begin working for the government?)) According to Canadian police reports, in 1978, Pasquale Cuntrera owned the Holiday Inn Casino – although the registers indicated otherwise. "At the start of 1980s the Cuntrera's were often at the Holiday Inn casino," says a croupier. "In 1989 they were there again, although they were ostensibly thrown of the island." According to (DEA agent David) Lorino, "the names Cuntrera and Caruana were well known on the island." Now nobody on Aruba wants to know that these gentle and well mannered Sicilians ever existed. "Oh, but a lot of people knew them then," says Bianca de Mey, who set up the company Investeringen Tweehonderd en Tien, which was the holding for a nightclub and pizzeria for the Cuntreras. The company now has nothing to do with them any more, she adds. "Aruban traders built an extensive infrastructure in the Caribbean," one of their former employees explains “ a network of warehouses, shipping-company's, bank-accounts on Aruba, in the Panamanian free zone, in Miami. "In 1983 the bolivar the Venezuelan currency collapsed on account of the debt-crisis, and the bills could not be payed to the Arubans any more." Then it really started. The smuggling economy needed re-structuring. The whole infrastructure was turned around: now it was used for cocaine trafficking and money laundering.” The Arubans managed the logistics. They brought in the precursor chemicals necessary for the production of cocaine out the coca leaves; they bought the planes and ships to transport the merchandise; and last but not least, they laundered the proceeds through the accounts of their import-export firms in the Aruban Free Trade Zone, skimming a percentage for their services. Habibe is not the only one. The 1994 International Narcotics Control Strategy Report stated that "other Aruban families with connections to banks in Venezuela and to cocaine cartels in Colombia are strongly suspected of involvement in drug trafficking and money laundering." Aruba's Attorney General at the time, the Dutchman Jan Zwinkels, expressed his surprise over the allegations about the the Mafia's influence on the island. "It is all very vague. My impression is that people repeat the same unfounded story over and over again. I never spoke to a Italian judge. There never has been request for mutual legal assistance." In contrast, the Italians say that when they arrested the Cuntreras in 1992 they had enough evidence to convict them. "We had indications that they were interested in investments on Aruba. Other countries should take over here, we have informed them,"says Italian police-investigator Pansa. That did not happen (You really have to read the whole report to appreciate how deeply involved organized crime is in Aruban affairs and politics)
http://www.caribbeannetnews.com/2004/03/26/marines.htm
Dutch marines on drugs charges in Aruba (excerpt)Friday, March 26, 2004AMSTERDAM, The Netherlands: In a scandal for the Dutch military, four marines have been arrested in Aruba on drugs charges after cocaine was seized in the suspects' houses and cars. According to a report by Expatica News, the public prosecutor's office in the Aruban capital Oranjestad has confirmed that the four men were arrested on 17 March, but a spokeswoman refused to reveal the quantity of drugs seized.
http://www.caribbeannetnews.com/2004/07/16/military.htm Friday, July 16, 2004 (excerpt)AMSTERDAM, The Netherlands: According to Expatica, of the 1,000 Dutch naval personnel stationed in the Netherlands Antilles to combat the international drugs trade, 15 have been arrested so far this year for allegedly trafficking narcotics, it was revealed Thursday. Another 30 have been detained by the military police for a range of crimes, including serious assault, intimidation, vandalism and theft, newspaper Algemeen Dagblad reported. The Dutch Royal Navy confirmed to the newspaper that eight marines have been sent home this year from the Caribbean for drug possession or drug dealing. The Caribbean islands are considered transit points for drugs coming from South America destined for Europe and the US.
http://www.casinowatch.org/crime/money_laundering.html Aruba plays a significant role as an offshore center for drug-related money laundering. Money laundering organizations are well established on Aruba and enjoy protection from considerable bank secrecy laws and a stable currency. The organizations use Aruba's offshore banking and incorporation systems, free-zone areas, and resort/casino complexes, to transfer and to launder drug proceeds. In 2000, the GOA issued several decrees on money laundering that included increased oversight of casinos and insurance companies. The Netherlands Antilles' large offshore financial sector, bank secrecy, casino/resort complexes, high volume of American and Dutch tourism, and stable currencies make the country conducive to money laundering. Trinidad and Tobago is not an important regional or offshore financial center. However, drug traffickers reportedly have laundered money using overvalued purchase prices, real estate, casinos, stockbrokers, insurance companies, and other nonfinancial establishments. | |
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41 Comments:
Its not a pretty post, but you get the point. When this information appears on www.truthfornatalee.com it will be much prettier.
Now to sit back and wait for all the Arubans to cry and whine and protest about how Aruba doesn't deserve this kind of treatment (it does- if you don't like it then clean up your island), that this all happened in the past (but the same people and policies are in place), and that the U.S. has plenty of crime of its own (we do- and we constantly try to make our nation better, instead of denying we have problems or blaming them on others).
Dan, well done. I have read alot of this stuff. Wonder if Paulus was tied into some of these drug dealers and the judges from Caraco too maybe ? Hmm.
Also, I saw an article not too long after Natalee became missing that showed a helicopter at the airport in ARUBA and whoever owned the helicopter was busted and all the cocaine was stacked outside the copter on the runway. I have not been able to find the picture and article again. Any help here.?
It was within the forst 15 days at most of june last year. I remeber it well.
I'm not sure that the presence of drug dealers or mobsters in a nation means that mister sloot is automatically tied to them.. that sounds a bit too Oliver Stone to me by a longshot.
Oh a lot of this is speculation, of course...just me playing the devil's advocate. I will say that some of these speculations are based on e-mails I get from Uncle Jossy Mansur, but I will be the first to admit that Jossy has his own agendas, especially against the MEP (who incidentally came to power after Eman was ousted).
Now these crimes are nothing much different than you would find in the U.S. In fact, read the article about U.S. Big Tobacco's ties to Aruban money laundering and how a key provision to prevent this got cut from the Patriot Act at the last minute. But again, the Arubans fail to understand the real issue: their government consistently meets the MINIMUM recommendations to curtail drugs and money laundering. They deny their problems are as great as they really are, and insterad of demanding more from their government and for themselves they deny and shift the blame, cry about the bad rap Aruba has and point the finger elsewhere.
Dan, shouldn't you point out that the Arubans are working very closely with the DEA?
That might make it look like you at least try to be fair and not just play the ugly American (everything is better is the US, yeah right....).
The DEA is on Aruba in an advisory role only. They have no power to interdict drug shipments anywhere except international waters- which do not even exist between Aruba and Venezuela (where Venezuelan waters end, NA waters begin). For example, the DEA could know the exact location of tons of drugs on Aruba itself- but it would be up to the Aruban authorities to actually move in.
Another myth about Aruba bites the dust. It is just like that crooked lawyer said in his article about money laundering: the policy looks good on paper but nothing really gets done. And keep in mind that Aruba's law enforcement is not only seriously understaffed and underbudgeted, but there are still concerns that the polis are to some degree corrupt.
Dan, if I contact the various sources you have used I am sure they will indicate they gave you permission to regurgitate their material, correct?
sorry dan in tx, but that monkey is right.. what does the fact that Aruba, just like every other place has crime?? What does that have to do with this case?
It is all public record...every bit of it. Trust me, I know what I'm doing. As a matter of fact, anything posted publicly on the internet becomes public domain- no need to get anyone's permission to repost anything, assuming you give the original authors credit (which is why I provided the sources and links)
Now then...I posted this to show people that Natalee's disappearance is possibly the least reason to boycott Aruba! I mean, sure we have all these crimes in the U.S. -even the forced prostitution. But in America we do not hide our problems, we do not deny we have problems, we do not blame others for our own problems and mistakes. We do our best to improve our nation. Aruba always seems to shift the blame, deny the sad truth, and make excuses instead of doing something. Aruba ahs only itself to blame for this whole emss- if they had demanded more from their ALE and government long ago, this would all be over.
Letting Dompig, Aruba Steve, or anyone else open mouth and insert foot again isn't solving anything. Aruba, why don't you try actually doing something to solve this case?
Remember- we're under no obligation to keep coming to Aruba, like it or not.
I don't know about all this monkey business, but you do have to wonder what is so different about our own backyards.. maybe you should back off a bit dan in tx
Back off? Why should I? I feel perfectly justified in this criticism. I mean, when was the last time any American administration was toppled because its elected officials were working with drug lords? That is the point you're all missing in this: in a government this corrupt (and as of 2004 concerns of corruption in Aruban government were still present), how can anyone expect anything as simple as an honest missing persons investigation?
You see, since the Carauna-Cuntreras debacle, nothing has really changed in Aruba. The same families are major political figures (Oduber, Croes, Arends, and Mansur to name a few). Aruba is still just as close to Venezuela and Colombia- but now neither Colombia nor especially Venezuela is friendly to the U.S. like they were ten years ago. Aruba still meets only the minimum that the U.S. Department of Justice asks supposedly friendly nations to honor in regards to drug trafficking and money laundering. Aruba's law enforcement is still understaffed and underbudgeted, and the same concerns of polis on the take exist.
Why does anyone think Aruba is somehow undeserving of the image they're getting now? Don't be so naive.
As for all the trolls I am way more patient with than I have to be: just wait until this is all reposted at www.truthfornatalee.com without any message boards- and you have even less ability to influence opinions. That is really a lost cause now- the question is not if Americans believe what they're hearing about Aruba, but will it be enough to keep them away?
Dan, why are you so afraid of Koko the Gorilla? If you believe in what you write why are you in such a hurry to erase everythin he has to say? You're allowing him to make a monkey of you!!
You're kidding, right? Koko has yet to offer anything of substance- nothing that refutes or disproves my posts, nothing that helps resolve this tragedy in the least, nothing that shows Koko is anything but a gorilla! And somehow I am afraid of Koko? Please! I am under no obligation to keep any post up by anyone- I even said as much in my VERT FIRST ENTRY, titled, "Firing the First Shot'
Look, here's a blog for you: http://arubanboycott.blogspot.com/ Michelle welcomes idiots like Koko- in fact, she takes great joy in ripping them apart. I don't have the time to do that, at fun as it would be.
But what is really pissing me off are these spammers...jeez is there no limit to how low the advertising industry will go?
I think the monkey may be a bit co-co nuts, but my dad is a journalist, and he says that any writer who won't allow criticism of his writing is a coward and no writer at all. I don't see why you're so intimidated by him, anyway?
I am reposting this. Thought you coudl help me find this article. There was apicture and everything when this happened last summer. I just cannot find it again.
Dan, well done. I have read alot of this stuff. Wonder if Paulus was tied into some of these drug dealers and the judges from Caraco too maybe ? Hmm.
Also, I saw an article not too long after Natalee became missing that showed a helicopter at the airport in ARUBA and who ever owned the helicopter was busted and all the cocaine was stacked outside the copter on the runway. I have not been able to find the picture and article again. Any help here.?
It was within the first 15 days at most of june last year. I remember it well.
PLEEZ REPLY..THANKS !
Well first of all I'm not a journalist. I'm just doing my part to help one distraught family who I care deeply about to find their daughter- a simple thing normally, but somehow Aruba has managed to complicate matters horribly- and to their detriment. And all because they want to protect one sleazy wanna-be judge 'on the take' and his sociopathic son.
Second (and this might surprise some), there are dozens of people who have been working on tasks for Beth and Dave for quite awhile now under the radar and behind the scenes, quietly but with amazing determination. My inbox (the one I use specifically for this effort) currently has 1100 e-mails from the past six months alone. I am blessed to be part of this effort and when I say I don't have the time to mess with these idiots, trust me I don't have the time!
Dan, I like your blog, but don't think I'll keep reading it. You've lessened your message by not being willing to stand up to others opinions. You've got a good message and a good intention, so why the cowardice of the moderation?
Ok, let me ask you this: why is refusing to put up with a lot of inane, worthless, childish trolling a sign of cowardice?
I am under no obligation to put up with this kind of thing- my blog, my rules. Quite frankly, nobody has the right to dictate how I run my site.
Again, it's the Aruban two-step: the Aruban bloggers expect to be immune to criticism but they should somehow be able to run roughshod over their opponents. It might work that way in Aruba, where the common Joe has no real power over the Dutch elitists (you know the same circle of people who the native Arubans let destroy their island's image for the sake of one spoiled little Dutch boy), but that isn't how it works here.
It is like I said, this blog does NOT exist to give people a free forum for their opinions. It is a temporary place to house the information which will eventually be up on www.truthfornatalee.com. In fact, when that website is up and running this blog will become a site B for the website- I will disable comments altogether and every post made will be removed and reformatted to match the website as much as possible.
There is nothing wrong with expressing your opinions, and as Claudia from arubagetagrip blog points out, everyone has their opinion about Natalee's disappearance. But that is not this blog's purpose- there are plenty of palces you can go to post your opinions.
As for those who may think they've 'defeated' me- well you'll have defeated me when you force me to remove my entire blog and the website permanently.
You can't win.
And people accuse me of wasting MY time on a futile effort....
Dan how does your research rate drug profits in Aruba versus in the united states?
Hmm...looks like my blog is still up, I am still here, but...oh my! Where are all the naysayers and trolls?
I just don't play fair, do I?
It is becoming more and more obvious to me that the Arubans and quite a few Europeans think their shit just doesn't stink. Any excuse to hate the Americans huh? It is true that a LOT of drugs that pass through Aruba are headed to the United States, and yes that is where the buyers are. However, you guys fail to overlook some things that I thought were pretty evident but I guess not. Let me spell it out to you.
First, Aruba has something called 'free trade' ports- you may notice that some of the soruces I cited above. There are no searches made of ships coming into these ports- regardless of where they are from. These ships can declare their cargo but are not required to. They can be searched if there is suspicion of contraband on board, but anything that the DEA listening posts that Aruba crows about so much find must be acted upon by the Aruban polis. Ask yourself this: what good does it do if the DEA were to know about every drug shipment passing through Aruba but the Arubans don't make any effort to arrest?
Second, Aruba is not a large island. It is about the size of Washington, D.C. The border between the U.S. and Mexico is over two thousand miles long. Wow...you'd think it would be easy to keep drugs out of an island that size huh? I geuss not...the question is, why not? Is it because the polis are on the make, because the polis force is understaffed and underequipped, because Aruba has some crummy laws that make it easy for drugs to move through (such as those free trade ports or a legal system that couldn't convict a shark of having teeth)? Or is it some combination of them all?
Go ahead, keep doing the Aruban Two-Step: deny there's a problem, shfit the blame. Turn and repeat.
You do a lot of effort to show that there is drug traffic in the caribbean. Where is the link to suggest it has anything to do with Natalee Holloway's disappearance, since that is supposedly your driving force? I don't see any evidence to suggest that there's any connection.
Let me tell you a little story:
Both Beth, Dave, Art Woods, and a lot of Americans AND Arubans think the FBI could solve this crime once and for all if they were allowed full participation in the investigation instead of the halfass token involvement they have got so far. Well despite what the suspects' lawyers claim, offering such to the FBI is not illegal, simply without precedence. What does ALE have to lsoe by inviting in such professionals? Do they have something to hide, or are they simply prideful to a fault?
So, how do you force the FBI in? Boycott- make the Arubans so unhappy with the ALE and the people who pull the ALE's strings- Rudy Croes and the rest of Oduber's MEP lapdogs- that they oust the MEP and maybe the next administration will cooperate more. How do you build a boycott? Well, Beth has in her hands right now a 16 page boycott strategy guide, something akin to the strategy guides that politicians have to get elected in that it is just as sensitive, just as valuable, and just as great a tool. It is unfortunate that Beth has not used hardly anything from it yet.
So why am I focusing on the drug traffick that goes through Aruba, as well as money laundering and anythign else I can find? Well, two reasons: first, to show Americans just how dirty Aruba is under the thin veneer of safely that the ATA cultivates (but don't get me wrong, other Caribbean nations do the same thing- most notably Jamaica). By doing this, I hope to persuade Americans (and anyone else who follwos this case and thinks Aruba stinks) to stay away from Aruba. The truth is, if Natale's disappearance is not solved beyond any doubt we won't have to ask Americans to stay away- Aruba underestimates what an emotionally charged issue this is stateside. Second, if drugs can be so easily smuggled on and off Aruba, how can anybody claim with any certainty that a human being, alive or dead, could not be smuggled off as well? Dompig tries to claim that the radars are foolproof, but he actually contradicted himself on that- scaredmonkeys.com was even kind enough to post the link to the interview ehre he first said the radar wasn't foolproof, and that in certain conditions small craft could sneak out! As for me, I can't help but think that even the most honest and well-intended police in the world could never prove a murder if in fact a kidnapping really occurred!
The actions of the ALE, the Oduber administration, and the suspects can be summed up very simply: those who have nothing to fear have nothing to hide.
I forgot to address one thing: you might ask, why should Aruba let foriegn law enforcement in?
Well, its simple: ALE has demonstarted again and again that they cannot or will not solve Natalee's disappearance. In the face of the terrible hit Aruba's reputation and tourism is taking (a 13% loss in January 2006 alone), what do they have to lose? Is the shame of asking for help greater than the suspicion Aruba is under now?
Why won't Aruba let the FBI cooperate fully and in good faith when many of their neighbors do- Barbados, Anguilla, and Trinidad to name three I know of.
Dan , do not give up. I have not.
I am not a troll. I have been trolled so I know what it is like. Seems like a lot of people on all these blogs about the Natalee Holloway case like to take up for the bad guys and to hell with Natalee and her parents. It is beyond how these Spinless people that continue to slander Beth, Dave and the rest of the Mountain Brook people can even sleep at night. They made a game out of this case.
If I COULD COME IN CONTACT WITH SOME OF THESE CREEPS I WOULD GET ENJOYMENT OUT OF PUTTING A SIZE 14 UP THEIR ***.
Thanks for the vote of support, Don't worry about me; it's like I told the trolls, they'll never win a battle of wills against me.
I only wish that there were more people who would post here and bring something valuable and worthwhile to the issues. In my own way I am trying to help find Natalee- I don't care about justice or who did what to her when; I just want to pressure Aruba into finding Natalee and giving her back to her parents regardless of the circumstances. Regardless of who is involved in her disappearance and the resulting travesty of an investigation. And yes, regardless of how much Arubans in general might suffer until then, though I certainly hope that their troubles don't last any longer than necessary! The rest will sort itself out in time- let's just find Natalee.
Because the USA is so safe you better stay there...(depending on the national terror alert, Threat Condition Level) but let’s not forget that Aruba is so horrible, full of prostitution, drugs, money laundering and mafia bosses...it's not a great happy island at all.. All those people that visited Aruba had a very bad time and are lying (those lying American tourists) about the great things about the island. Be afraid be warned stay in USA where there are no unfit law enforcers, political figures and leaders (just vote for your actors, they are smart). USA the land of freedom (economical paradise, the big dream) where you can't get robed, rapped mugged or violated. If some people in the USA are missing I’ll bet u they'll find them all…. and fast.. with the FBI helping and all, USA one happy nation without corruption, mafia, organised crime, prostitutes and drugs (because it's the Arubans that are using the drugs) not the Americans, Canadians or the big European countries that don’t have a steady demand for the narcs…. it’s simple … don't blame the fish because it's drinking the water you are drowning in. The ocean is big and all fish try to survive.
The sad thing is that people without a conscious (conscious: makes you more human less animal) climb to higher positions of power each day and make important decisions .. and the world/people calls them strong, smart, leaders. .they reflect who we are ..we vote/choose… we make them powerful.. we learn (basic) history at our schools and live life every day.. and still not everybody sees the pattern - WE sad HUMANS are a reflection of our own past and being, we are stuck in one loop, the loop we know. (Again our naïve human nature)
Note: The next time your daughter or son goes out on a date in your city, in an another town or country,, unsupervised, she/he might go missing and this can happen anywhere in the world ask the good ol’ CIA…. Humans go missing…(but not every day… hmmm or check the statistics maybe I’m wrong) .. just hope that the law enforces there (where it happened) are skilled like the ones in the USA and find her fast.. and arrest everybody who had contact with her/ him.. trail them ..and just lock them up so the people around the case can get closure. That is soothing, it’s human nature to feel this way (but does that make it right?)
I hope they find Nathalee and solve this case I hope she is alive so she can tell the world what really happened (or is happening)
The very last sentence is the most important- for all of us that are involved, Aruban or American.
I can always tell when an Aruban has posted- they totally miss the points (or perhaps our latest anonymous is new here and did not read through some other posts).
Anonymous says that the U.S. has drug problems, thousands of missing persons (43,000 I believe), plenty of violent crime, organized crime (especially since the 1930s), and even human trafficking and forced prostitution! It is all true.
We also have honest, competent, aggressive police with an effective system of oversight (to ENSURE the police stay fair and honest) and in my opinion a superior legal system- at least where violent crimes are concerned. Don't get me started on tort reform and trial law, though! Oh yeah and we also have some absolutely draconian anti- money laundering laws, another thing that Aruba and other Caribbean islands lack. In fact, the tough laws against organized crime on the books in the U.S. are exacly why everything is done offshore now.
Sure, most drugs that pass through Aruba are bound for the U.S. But islands like Aruba are the gateway- if they closed the door between them and Venezuela and Colombia, it is easier in the U.S. Remember, Aruba is geographically the same size as Washington, D.C., and the United States has five thousand miles of border to patrol, not to mention thousands of miles of coastline! To say that we should be able to police that large a geographical area is absurd. Aruba, on the other hand- it is roughly the same size as a typical Texas county. You'd think it would be easier for them to stop the drugs there...but then again, those free trade ports make it easy to smuggle things, and it doesn't help that the very people who run the smuggling own most of Aruba. They also own Aruba's police and the MEP.
You conveniently forget all that. I'm sure Anonymous above didn't realize it, but he or she is doing the Aruban two-step: deny there's a problem, shift the blame. With Aruba it is always shift the blame, never, "Hey, we really might have a problem here. Perhaps we should take a long, hard look at our government, our police, our society" I blame the Dutch influence in Aruba for this attitude, actually: the Dutch tend to think their crap doesn't stink as well. 'Prideful to a fault' is how a friend of mine from the Netherlands described her own people.
Now if Natalee is still alive (and I have yet to see any evidence that she is dead, sorry to tell you Dumbpig and Janssen), then if she is ever found alive she becomes what is called a 'material witness'. She can tell us exactly what happened- was she really kidnapped and sold into prostitution, or did she just run away? Who was involved? I can just imagine Natalee sitting with the FBI and Dutch police some day, pointing to a photo of someone like Rudy Croes and saying, "He raped me too that night. He was there" It is possible Natalee ran away - and I will be honest with you when I say I have reason to believe that all was not well between Natalee and her mom and stepdad. A family friend tells me that Natalee had run away before, and that at least one of her friends- Miss Byrd- was a known pot smoker and Beth did not like Natalee hanging around with her. One thing that Dompig was right about according to this person is that Natalee was SOUSED when she left with the suspects. Of course, that means she was even less able to make rational judgements or get away from a abd situation. You can bet that is why Joran changed his story from, "she was drunk" to, "she wasn't drunk" Daddy told him what a very druink girl implied, and that is exactly why one of Natalee's true friends is so upset that the MB kids lied to Beth and said Natalee wasn't drunk when in fact she was.
Now Aruba is trying to convince Americans that Natalee did run away from an abusive home. I predicted they would try this long ago. Now why would she run away from a foriegn country? She was 18- she was under no legal obligation to live with her mom and stepdad at all. If her life with the Twittys was so bad, why didn't she just go live with Dave? I don't buy that she ran away- doing so in this manner would defy all rational thought, even from a naive 18 year old. And anyway, if Natalee ran away that would mean that Janssen was wrong all that time when she insisted Natalee couldn't have left the island because she left her passport. Janssen you underhanded bitch, were you lying then or are you lying now?
Of course, if Natalee was sold away after she was kidnapped, consider this: wouldn't that be a much greater scandal to Aruba and the MEP than a murder, even an unsolved one? Of course they couldn't have predicted that this would be haunting them nearly a year later with no sign of media attention waning (and Dave Holloway's book tour kicked off this month). They were expecting Natalee's disappearance to fade away just like Amy Bradley's did after a few months- of course now people remember Amy again too. Every indication from how the MEP, the ALE, the ATA/AHATA, and the suspect have acted suggests that there is a furious cover-up going on in Aruba. Why not cover this up- the Netherlands can't take over due to some horribly misbegotten treaties, the U.S. can't simply force themselves in, and the truth may be far more disturbing and damaging than an unsolved murder.
Aruba has every reason to cover this up, and the Aruban people who rely on tourism have every reason to be only as helpful as looks good- they will lose something if the truth comes out, be it honor, tourism, or the naivete that all is fine on their safe, happy island.
But on an island where everyone knows everyone else, including who the chollars are, I find it hard to believe that nobody knows anything that can crack this case open. If anyone does, I recommend they go straight to Beth and Dave not the ALE.
In fact, all we need is one name- who was Natale with last? I seriously doubt it was Joran or the Kalpoes. After we have that one name, resolution will be quick and painless.
Dan, there is a large gap (empty space between the end of yoru article and where your comments start. I hope you can correct this and maybe more people will post here. I will put a link to your site on my sites . Hope many will come.Post a new article on your thoughts about what has happened here lately. It gets carzier and crazier as the days go by. I smell a coverup.
Yeah I really need to fix that...Blogger's text formatting is not perfect. It tends to lose its damn mind over pasted-in html and Excel spreadsheet stuff and that is why that huge dead space is there.
So...you're just NOW beginning to smell a cover-up? ;) Hell, Aruba stinks like the Valero refinery at full production- or like piles of dead dogs (how do those dogs die anyway) since early July!
But let me tell you about these latest two witnesses that claim Natalee was running away from an abusive relationship. I am not the only person who saw the 'runaway' excuse as Aruba's best possible out long ago (and you can bet Beth and Dave have expected this for awhile now). Think about it: no evidence for murder (conveniently so), no interest in investigating a kidnapping, but Joran and even Dumbpig have been sowing that seed for awhile now. Joran did it when he first talked about Natalee allegedly calling Beth 'Hitler's granddaughter'- and you can bet he was coached. You see, Joran also has a team of people helping daddy cover his ass too- it goes beyond his coached TV interviews. You can bet daddy, his lawyers, maybe even Aruba Steve who knows- have been planning strategies to get him out from under this and get Aruba out from under it as well. A runaway, especially in light of the lack of evidence for murder or anything else, is convenient in two ways. First, it gets Joran off the hook. Second, it lets ALE pull a Pontius Pilate and wash their hands of it- they are under no obligation to help find a 'runaway'. Once they declare that, it is Beth and Dave's problem.
Now here's why that excuse won't work. First, why would an 18 year old girl need to run away anyway? By U.S. law a person is emancipated and adult at age 18- they can do anything they damn well please. If Natalee was so unhappy with Beth, she could go live with Dave or by herself or anything, and she could do it anywhere! Second, why would anyone run away from a foriegn country and to a foriegn country? That makes absolutely no sense, especially since Natalee left her passport, IDs, credit cards, everything in her room. If she ran away you would think she would've taken her credit cards at least.
But wait! I thought she couldn't possibly leave the island without her passport! Let's see...she didn't leave by boat, and she didn't fly out with no money for a ticket. So...I guess she is still on Aruba? You know, if Natalee Holloway were running around on an island that size one would think someone would've spotted her by now...so my question is, she must be hiding really, really well...or she's being hidden really well!
Needless to say the whole thing is a load of crap. Natalee was kidnapped, and I am certain she was not on the island dead or alive for months now! Every time a search turns up nothing, I believe that more and more. But Aruba just wants this to go away- they don't care about Natalee, they don't care about her family's suffering, they only care about us setting foot on their island and dropping wads of $$$. Just remember that everytime Aruba pulls one of its tricks.
mark my words, when this case is clsoed without resolution Aruba will cry and whine about how they did their best and how picked-on and misunderstood they are. But Aruba, hear this: as long as the FBI is not in Aruba and the MEP is, you have NOT done your best.
And money is a powerful weapon. You don't think so? Ask the Russians who spent them into the ground in the Cold War...
Hi Dan, I have thought coverup from the very start. I have always believed this. One drug infested island of drug dealers, corupt gamblers, money laudrying and I am sure the list goes on and on.
The people that are just innocent citzens need to wake up and smell the tulips. Those are the only ones that I feel badly for.
They need to march on the courts and demand resignation of all the Law enforcement and court systems of that corupt (turn your head) Island .
This whole thing is totally disgusting. Its certainly not safe to leave the soil of your own country. If you are on a cruise ship you can go missing, too.
I am about sick of all of this stuff I keep hearing. We the people of the USA need to do something about these corupt countries.
Best thing we can do for Beth and Dave in their search for simple answers is to just not go to Aruba...or any other destination that depends on our wealth but yet somehow cannot be bothered to keep our interests and safety at heart.
It is called 'voting with your pocketbook', and it happens all the time. If you don't like any given place or business, do you go back? no, you go somewhere else that offers the same thing- restaurant, barber shop, car dealership, airline, hotel, Caribbean hotspot- doesn't matter what the good or service is, if there's competition then Americans at least go elsewhere. The great thing about Aruba is, they have plenty of competition- look at my Tourism Destinations threads below and you'll see that Aruba is not a damn bit special. Is their claim that they are out of the hurricane path enough to make a distinction? Doubtful- Aruba isn't the only Caribbean island with this distinction and Aruba has had several near missies since 2000.
Here's something else I was happy to hear: the ATA is looking at increasing its market in Europe- that is, to me, a clear indication that they know that U.S. business is a sinking ship and they're looking around for other markets. Read 'Economics of a Boycott' and see what else I have to say about the problems associated with opening a new market. Ha! Too bad Aruba doesn't know that Beth's PR person has been talking to British and German media about bringing Natalee's story to Europe for awhile now...
not to be disrespectful, but you might be suprised that stories relating to an american boycott may not fly very well in Europe. I don't want to sound rude, but americans are not very popular on the old continent. Canadian youths are always instructed to display maple leafs on their backpacks so they won't be confused for Americans while abroad. It is intended to prevent hostility by those who might otherwise be unfriendly
Hmmm...if our so -called 'allies' in Europe and up north don't like us already, why worry about their opinion now?
And American tourists provide Aruba with between 53% and 60% of their income, so I think that we have every right to stay away if this is the best they can do for one of our citizens AND a cuase we feel strongly about. Can you explain to me why we owe Aruba our business if we are unhappy with them?
Aruba ! Give NATALEE BACK TO HER FAMILY NOW. This is not going away. NOT NOW NOT EVER. !!COME CLEAN ! NOW. You know the REAL TRUTH" Spill it now !
we all know the export is not the drugs, texan. find the real export in the middle of the island and you will find the answers you seek
"Cousins Alex and Erick Mansur were arrested Oct. 3 along with Arubans David Cybul and Randy Habibe after a judge agreed to hear a U.S. extradition request."
Only David left the den alive.
I do not know what relation those named may be to Jossy, or even if they live in Aruba anymore. But, for anyone who has actually done some research, Aruban corruption at any level is no surprise. If I remember correctly, Rudy Croes has been implicated in corruption involving construction contracts with the government a few times. Of course, as the Holloway disappearance shows, it is impossible to get justice when the criminals control the courts.
That reminds me: Dutch officials in Aruba were worried that exact thing would happen way back in the late 1980's and early 1990's. So was the Clinton Administration, who asked the Netherlands to postpone status aparte. Funny how Arubans have conveniently forgotten Caruana-Cuntreras....
Dan,
Any idea what became of the case against Alex and Erick Mansur along with Randolph Habibe and David Cybul? How many, if any, ever did any prison time?
I honestly don't know. I will ask one of my boycott partners who atches Aruba's goings-on like a hawk. he may have something to report.
Nice to see there's still Codetalkers out there, though. I still believe there's way more to this case than even the so-called 'professionals' know about. Those professionals tend to wear blinders sometimes.
Oh, the codetalkers are still out there. I have my theories, too. I was reading your blog again last week and something stood out to me that I had not pursued before. it may be nothing, but I would like to know what actually became of all those people who were indicted together. Did any of them go to prison and if do, are they still there?
truthseeker2
Well, it looks as though my post did not go thru. will try again.
The codetalkers are still out there. We have not forgotten Natalee and we never will.
I was reading your blog last week and something jumped out at me that I had not pursued in the past. I would really like to know what became of those who were indicted and brought back to the US for trial. Did they go to prison and if so, are they still there?
truthseeker2
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